Comments on: Column 16: A Pox on Thee!

By: Gulik3

Gulik3 — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:07:53 +0000

At this point, what’s there to vandalize? The stuff they write makes them look worse than any craziness I could cobble together.

By: Trashbat

Trashbat — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:15:47 +0000

Flippin Jun 25th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
“Well, I don’t know that he’s gone that far, yet. But I think the best thing we can do now is not to vandalize, (not that we all did) and not to attack on their site (which not all of us do.) I am adopting the approach of “enough rope.”

I’d be hard pushed to think of any RW contributers (myself included) that regularly vandalise CP these days. There certainly seem to be a number of active vandals at the moment but I doubt they have anything to do with RW. Still, we’ll probably get the blame…XD

By: La Cabale

La Cabale — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:07:44 +0000

Interesting. I was thinking more of the Calvinist intrusion into government…

By: Just me

Just me — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:30:08 +0000

The comparison to Cotton Mather isn’t apt in this case. Cotton Mather was a strong advocate of smallpox vaccination (and was physically attacked for it. After he vaccinated his son, someone threw a bomb into his house. So, not apt in this case.

By: Flippin

Flippin — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:56:40 +0000

TK only seems different because he talks to people at RW. Rob is a paranoid wannabe and Karajou is just sad. They’ll all stir, I’m sure.

By: hyperbole

hyperbole — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:42:53 +0000

I do think Andy is heading in the direction of dangerous cult leader. TK is a bit different from the rest. RobS seems there to push his weirdo agenda. Karajou seems the biggest follower/enforcer. He’ll be the one mixing the KoolAid.

By: Flippin

Flippin — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:26:30 +0000

Well, I don’t know that he’s gone that far, yet. But I think the best thing we can do now is not to vandalize, (not that we all did) and not to attack on their site (which not all of us do.) I am adopting the approach of “enough rope.”

I find it not at all surprising that Sharon never wrote back to respond to Ames (or if she did, it was not public.) It seems to me that Andy exerts a measure of control over his minions, including his coterie of young girls, that should concern even the most conservative parents. But as this deletion (see: smallpox) shows, he is not about to create an encyclopedia that disagrees with him whatsoever.

That said, I think he and Fred Phelps have a lot in common. As I studied Phelps in grad school, he is the type of person who communicates as much through intimidation as through persuasion. Andy follows this model and history tells us there will always be willing followers of such a strong, clear-spoken leader. TK, Karajou, RobS and the rest are just doing what comes naturally: following. I think it is because they lack the fortitude to question someone they see as so powerful. They are simple, uncritical individuals who are really incapable of leading themselves. No hedging here: they are barely coherent at best and almost completely removed from reality at worst. The strange thing is they will not see how corrupting an influence Andy is until it is probably too late. Simply put: these are the guys who coaxed the unwilling to drink the Kool-Aid.

I have no more hope for those at CP. I think they are now playing a dangerous game w/ Andy–feeding his ego and driving his “final solution” for Wikipedia.

I also thing we need to think about a new term for the henchmen. They aren’t really trolls anymore. I suggest ogres–willing followers with the same tired rhetoric spewing forth like so much bile. Were I a Christian, I’d pray for them.

I really think we’re gonna wake up one day and some of these folks will have tried to ride out of here on a comet, or some shit.

By: PalMD

PalMD — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:03:27 +0000

He’ll use it. He’s no better than any other cult leader like Jim Jones or David Koresh. He cloaks himself in the garments of legitimate Christianity, but despite this, his true colors are showing. I used to think he was just a little bit out there at the far end of fundie-land, but now it’s clear. He is dangerous.

By: Trashbat

Trashbat — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:34:52 +0000

How long before Andy uses his Parthian Shot quote over that!

By: juliansmith

juliansmith — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:21:04 +0000

I’ve left CP over this: http://www.conservapedia.com/User:Totnesmartin

(I’m Juliansmith here as i didn’t want to get TK’d for commenting under my CP name.)